[theqoo/enter-talk] AFTERMATH OF NCT 127'S DAESANG DUMP

[theqoo] SPORTS SEOUL OFFICIAL, THE REASON WHY NCT127 WON THE SMA DAESANG

Their value increased because it is the result of growing step by step every year.

With their albums released in 2021, they not only recorded an overwhelming album sales and became triple million sellers, but also climbed to the top of various charts not only in Korea but also as the representative group of K-pop, standing shoulder to shoulder with global stars.

The growth case of NCT 127, which is loved not only in Korea but around the world, also sets a good example for the next generation of K-pop junior groups.

In 2021, NCT 127 became a 'double million seller' within a week of its release with its 3rd full-length album 'Sticker' and ranked 3rd on the US Billboard main chart 'Billboard 200', the highest ranking in K-pop this year. They also ranked 1st in domestic music charts and was crowned 10 times in music broadcasts setting a meaningful record. 

The 3rd full-length repackaged album ‘Favorite’, which was released afterward, also surpassed 1.06 million copies in pre-order alone, setting a record of cumulative sales of triple million sellers.

In addition, NCT 127 first entered the US Billboard 200 at No. 3 in September last year, and has continued to chart-in to this day, proving its undying long-run popularity.

Summary:
'Unrivaled album sales'
'Ranked at the top of worldwide charts, group that represents K-pop"
'Because they are receiving love worldwide, they are a good model for their hoobae groups'
'They had the best results as K-pop artists in Billboard'

Actually,
For their physical sales, there's Bangtan, Seventeen and NCT Dream above them
And they didn't even rank digitally


Daesang (Grand Prize): NCT 127

Best Album Award: NCT DREAM

Best Song Award: IU

World Best Artist Award: BTS

Bonsang (Main Award): ENHYPEN, Heize, Brave Girls, Oh My Girl, Kang Daniel, aespa, ATEEZ, NCT 127, THE BOYZ, Lim Young Woong, BTS, SEVENTEEN, IU

Best Performance Award: STAYC, ENHYPEN

OST Award: Lim Young Woong

Trot Award: Lim Young Woong

Ballad Award: Red Velvet’s Wendy

R&B/Hip Hop Award: HyunA

Discovery of the Year: Lang Lee

Popularity Award (Korea): Lim Young Woong

K-Wave Award (outside of Korea): EXO

U+ Idol Live Best Artist Award: BTS

Special Jury Award: Jung Dong Ha

Rookie of the Year: Lee Mujin, OMEGA X, EPEX

original post: here

1. The summary is crazy ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

2. But I bet that even their fans didn't want them to win ㅠ

3. Even I feel their embarrassment... Cut down on the media play a bit

4. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ just stopㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ this is seriously sad and funny at the same time

5. Why do they keep making us feel embarrassed?🤦‍♀️

6. Rationally speaking, aren't they also embarrassed? But seeing the dumb kids shielding them here, I feel like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree so they probably don't know why we're embarrassed for them either... If that's the case, they have no shame ㅎㅎ

7. They are emphasizing on the best record on Billboard by taking the Billboard200 while there's another group who's been 1st on Hot100 for weeksㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

8. SM Music Awardsㅋㅋㅋ embarrassing

9. Are you sure they are not describing another team?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

10. Bangtan got rigged and they are media playing pretending to be the top group but aren't they embarrassed? They will already be mocked for the rest of their career for receiving this Daesang



[theqoo] ANYWAYS NCT 127 WON THE DAESANG

NCT 127's first Daesang since their debut

The 31st Seoul Music Awards was held at Gocheok Sky Dome on the 23rd. The name of NCT 127 was called at the grand prize announcement, which is the top prize of all awards ceremonies. They came up on the stage with a bewildered look, held the trophy in their hand, and each announced their acceptance speech. Taeyong said, “I am deeply moved.” “Last year was a year where all NCT members were able to shine because they were together. It would have been impossible without the cool and charming members.”

Doyoung, who turned around and wiped away tears, also made a strong impression. He said, "I've been dreaming of receiving an award like this for a long time, and it's all thanks to NCTzens. I am also thankful to my parents.”

The group BTS, which has won the grand prize for four consecutive years since the 27th awards ceremony, has won three awards this year, including the 'Bonsang', 'World Best Artist Award', and 'U+ Idol Live Best Artist Award'. The physical and digital awards went to IU and NCT Dream respectively.

original post: here

1. Please get rid of SMA!!!

2. Seriously funny ㅋㅋㅋㅋ If I were their fan, I would be so embarrassed that I won't even be able to tell others that they won the Daesang

3. Ridiculous

4. Look at that titleㅋㅋㅋㅋ

5. Must be nice to receive a Daesang

6. This is so cheap, do you feel good receiving a Daesang this way?

7. SM is disgusting and SMA is trash

8. Anyone can tell that this is not it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. They must be the ones who are the most embarrassed for being Daesang winners. They mocked the earthquake last year too.. 

10. Who even likes them? These kids who mocked the earthquake... Nobody knows their songs nor the members but everyone knows that they don't have common sense



[theqoo] DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SONGS HAS NCT 127 RELEASED LAST YEAR?

Favorite

Lemonade

Sticker

In 2021, the only male idol group who made it in Melon's TOP120 is BTS' Butter

original post: here

1. I don't know any of these songs.. what's happening

2. I don't know any of these

3. I don't know any song and I've only seen this group in the Hot category a couple of times

4. I've only heard about this group's name

5. I heard Sticker before

6. I do know Sticker and that's because they did a collab with Kart Rider so I was forced to listen to it in the background... I don't really know them for the good reasons though... (I don't hate NCT)

7. I'm sorry but I have never heard of these titles

8. Stickaaaa~~~

9. I don't know any of these

10. 0 of them



[enter-talk] I WILL JUST LIST THE FACTS ABOUT SMA

1. If you look at NCT Dream's records, they definitely had the results to receive a Bonsang. But they didn't

2. Other male idol groups who had better results than NCT 127 didn't receive a Bonsang (Shinee, Stray Kids, TXT <-- the votes for Stray Kids and TXT were the highest)

3. But 127 randomly won the Daesang

4. The Dream fans who saw this got furious because of how ridiculous it is despite their group having better results

5. 127's fans and Dream's fans are now fighting in the mud again

6. Because of this, suspicions regarding 127 rigging the Daesang keep on rising

I don't even know which of their songs hit big. There are other male idol groups who did better than them in terms of digital and physical sales, YT views and popularity so the Daesang ruined the mood.

post response:
[+1,299][-69]
original post: here

1. [+418, -8]
SMA's judging criteria is the Hanteo chart and this is the Hanteo chart

2. [+418, -16]
They are not 1st in digital charts, they are not 1st in physical sales and didn't even ranked in the yearly digital chart but won a Daesang. SMA is so corrupted

3. [+370, -6]
They keep saying that they are selling well physically but that's only if they follow the Gaon chart. SMA follows the Hanteo chart and Dream is ranked higher than them

4. [+204, -2]
The Rookie Awards were also problematic but it's being overshadowed by the Bonsang. Why did Omega X win? It should've been IVE

5. [+203, 0]
No but their names were already written and they were already holding the trophy and giving their speech even before the votes ended. Why is this not problematic?...


[theqoo] SEOUL MUSIC AWARD DAESANG'S WINNING SONGS AND MELON SCORES FOR THE PAST10 YEARS

** I'm taking Melon's decade charts of the 2010s and the decade chart of 2020. They're domestic charts (T/n: a bit confusing but on Melon, there's a special chart called "Decade chart" which gives you the yearly chart. OP is saying she's taking the yearly chart of these songs on the year it was released and on the year 2020)
** Melon's 2021's yearly chart isn't out yet so it's not posted

2012
PSY "Gangnam Style"
12.07.05 release
#1 on yearly chart

2013
EXO "Growl"
13.08/05
#12 and #65 on 2013 yearly chart

2014
EXO "Overdose" 
14.05.07 releast
#33 on 2014 yearly chart

2015
EXO "Call Me Baby" 
15.03.30
#22 on 2015 yearly chart

2016
EXO "EX'ACT"
16.06.09 release
55th on 2016 yearly chart (Monster) 

2017
BTS "LOVE YOURSELF  'Her'"
17.09.18 release
#8 9on 2017 yearly chart and #16 on 2020 yearly chart (DNA) (t/n: it means they were 89th on the yearly chart of decade chart in 2017, and #16 on yearly chart of decade chart in 2020)

2018
BTS "LOVE YOURSELF 轉 'Tear""
18.05.18 release
#18 on 2018 yearly chart (Fake Love) 

2019
physical: BTS "MAP OF THE SOUL : PERSONA" 
19.04.12 release
#3 on 2019 yearly chart and #9 on 2020 yearly chart (Boy With Luv) 

digital: Taeyeon "Four Seasons"
19.03.24 release
#7 on 2019 yearly chart and #96 on 2020 yearly chart

2020 
BTS "BAP OF THE SOUL : 7"
20.02.21 release
#17 on 2020 yearly chart (ON)

2021
NCT 127 "Sticker" 
21.09.17 release

original post: here

1.🅾️ It's not that NCT Sticker will not even be able to enter the yearly Melon top 100, it's that they won't even be able to enter the top 250. The cut to enter the top 250 needs you to have a cumulative 10M listeners, Sticker doesn't even reach 6M, which makes me doubt whether they can even enter the top 500

2. The fact that Bigbang never won once proves that this is just an SM party. It's SM Music Awardㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Wow... The other groups' fans who are working hard voting should stop now 

3. This is why we call this the SM party. Was it last year? All of the stages were based off SM

4. What's up with sharing a Daesang in 2019? And the 2021 one is just legendary. If not for those 2 years, I would've had no comments

5. The kids shielding 2019's award are f*cking lowㅋㅋㅋ Do you guys think that Bangtan didn't release anything else aside from Boy With Luv?ㅋㅋㅋ Just because your singer only sings OST and singles, you think everyone else does it? Just go look at the Melon chart and come back, a lot of their songs on their album made it to the chart. The moment the judges gave 2 daesangs on that year, you could clearly see their intention 

6. EXO receiving an award isn't weird, but Twice and Bigbang not receiving a single one is funny. The way they split the Daesang on 2019 and giving out 2 of them makes me wonder why they didn't also split the award when EXO won and gave one to Bigbang, Twice or IU too? 

7. The 2019 and 2021 awards are the worstㅋ

8. Taeyeon winning 2019 and NCT127 winning 2021 are the worst, it's a fact that this is SM Music Awardㅋ

9. Do they not know any shame... 

10. Meanwhile I've seen NCT Dream in the Melon Chart far more often 



[theqoo] SEOUL MUSIC AWARD PHYSICAL/VOTES RANKING 

(2021 Hanteo yearly chart ranking) 

Domestic and international voting compiled results

Bonsang: 
1. Im Youngwoon 4,601,271 votes 18.07% 
2. Stray Kids 2,068,422 votes 8.12%
3. TXT 1,950,506 votes 7.66%
4. Kang Daniel 1,928,449 votes 7.57%
5. ATEEZ 1,648,243 votes 6.47%
6. NCT DREAM 1,349,767 votes 5.30%
7. Enhypen 1,206,128 votes 4.73%
8. BTS 1,183,954 votes 4.65%
9. ASTRO 1,153,913 votes 4.53%
10. Lisa 1,148,796 votes 4.51%
11. Seventeen 977,920 votes 3.84%
12. NCT 127 967,942 votes 3.80%

+ international global vote

Bonsang: 
1. Stray Kids 1,976,218 votes 11.35%
2. TXT 1,803,249 votes 10.36%
3. ATEEZ 1,627,192 votes 9.35%
4. NCT DREAM 1,236,823 votes 7.10%
5. ENHYPEN 1,142,425 votes 6.56%
6. BTS 1,136,317 votes 6.52%
7. ASTRO 1,094,568 votes 6.28%
8. NCT 127 894,235 votes 5.13%
9. Lisa 861,407 votes 4.95%
10. Rose 844,298 votes 4.58%
11. Kang Daniel 841,269 votes 4.83%
12, Treasure 653,706 votes 3.75%
13. Seventeen 653,706 votes 3.75%

Domestic votes

Bonsang: 
Im Youngwoong 4,517,538 votes 56.11%
Kang Daniel 1,087,180 votes 13.50%
Seventeen 324,214 votes 4.02%
Lisa 287,389 votes 3.56%
Rose 255,712 votes 3.17%
Nu'est 189,469 votes 2.35%
TXT 147,257 votes 1.82%
Baekhyun 124,938 votes 1.55%
NCT Dream 112,944 votes 1.40%
10. The Boyz 105,818 votes 1.31%
11. Monsta X 105,314 votes 1.30%
12. Stray Kids 92,204 votes 1.14%
13. NCT 127 73,707 votes 1.14%
14. ENHYPEN 63,703 votes 0.79%
15. ASTRO 59,345 votes 0.73%

original post: here

1. Huh NCT Dream was above them? Isn't this supposed to be an SM party? Why didn't they give it to Dream?ㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷ

2. Seoul Music Award was always just an SM party, that's why nobody votes for the other artists because nobody acknowledge it even being an award show... But I didn't know there were even fights between SM idols 

3. Dream's Bonsang f*ck... 

4. NCT's embarrassing Daesang 

5. Give us Dream's Bonsang... 

6. The real winners are the fans who didn't voteㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. Are they including NCT2020's sales in NCT127's sales? Explain, this makes no sense 

8. I'm an SM fan myself and I'm speechlessㅋㅋㅋ who would give a Daesang to some groups whose songs nobody even knows even from just the title?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Because of their scamming image, nobody wanted to listen to this group, but now I'm sure there would be even less people who will 

9. As another group's fan even I can see that Dream was higher? 

10. Stray Kids received a Bonsang last year, but this year, they didn't receive anything but scored higherㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


[theqoo] EVEN INTERNATIONAL FANS ARE CALLING OUT SMA RIGHT NOW.TWT

This was the result of the 31st Seoul Music Awards

They even started trending a tag

First of all, from the Rookie award alone, aside from Lee Mujin, IVE who received the overwhelming win in votes and results didn't receive it, but 2 other boy groups received it



Theqoo's reaction is exploding 

After this, their Bonsang

IU receiving her first Bonsang in 11 years..... 

WTF IU winning a Bonsang in 11 years????
Everyone was speechless

- Stray Kids
- TXT
- NCT DREAM 

Those 3 fandoms are the ones who are making the biggest fuss right now🔥🔥
Stray Kids and TXT received the #2 and #3 most votes in domestic voting and they were #1 and #2 internationally 

It was also a paid voting 
They were even in the top half
And they had enough to receive a Bonsang

The best digital award - IU 


Of course everyone congratulated her

Best album NCT DREAM - Hot Sauce
??: I guess they gave it based on the judge, ok ok congrats

And then there was the Daesang


Everyone went crazy
The comments came in so fast, I couldn't screenshot everything

2021 yearly physical sales ranking
1. BTS
2. Seventeen 
3. NCT DREAM 
4. Seventeen 
5. NCT127

2021 yearly digital sales ranking (Gaon) 
1. IU 
2. Brave Girls
3. BTS
5. IU 
5. Aespa
.
.
.
NCT 127 x


original post: here

1. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ SM Music Awardsㅋㅋㅋ You guys sure have a lot of nerves

2. Give the Bonsang to those 3 teams!!!!! 

3. Do they not have any shame? 

4. Just only call SM artists next time and only play SM songs... I'm embarrassed to even watch it 

5. As an NCT127 fan, I'm pissed off too f*ck... We find it dumbfounding as well.... It's annoying that they became the butt of the joke now 

6. HYBE is a saint 

7. SM music awards.. They were always famous for that... But it's even more shocking seeing how NCT received one of the least amount of votes and had one of the worst results 

8. NCT for a Daesang...? So random 

9. IVE hit so big, how can they not get the rookie award? 

10. I've listened to some NCT songs, but this song is seriously not Daesang-worthy... ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 



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